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posted on 6-22-2003 at 12:20 PM
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Some CDs are not found on the free CDDB
I notice some CDs are not found by the eJ CD Ripper on the free CDDB while they are found by others CD rippers like "Easy CD-DA Extractor"
which look up at freedb.freedb.org.
What is the reason?
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posted on 6-22-2003 at 09:12 PM
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Back in v3.18 we switched the CDDB host to us.freedb.org from freedb.freedb.org because freedb.freedb.org was down at the time. Now that it is working
again we will change it back to freedb.freedb.org for the next version.
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posted on 6-22-2003 at 11:23 PM
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How about a method that checks one database, and then falls back to the other if the first source is down?
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posted on 6-22-2003 at 11:51 PM
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Actually, when freedb.freedb.org is accessed it is supposed to automatically forward to the closest working server (mirror of the same database) to
you. But for some reason this stopped working for a good 2 days (they were probally updating the freedb.freedb.org server hardware) so we decided to
switch to the static us.freedb.org server. So when we switch it back to freedb.freedb.org it should automatically forward it to the closest working
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posted on 6-23-2003 at 06:53 AM
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OK I understand,
However, the best would be if it was possible to switch oneself between the different hosts, just in case...
But like you say that is supposed to work automatically on freedb.freedb.org. Hopefully they don't update the hardware too often. 
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posted on 8-24-2003 at 10:48 AM
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Audiosoft,
Have you decided to switch back to the freedb.freedb.org server in eJ v3.3?
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posted on 8-24-2003 at 08:27 PM
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Yes, we will be switching back to freedb.freedb.org in v3.3. Thanks for reminding us.
However, I think all that will do is make the lookup a little faster for people that don't reside in the USA. I think the freedb.org music
database itself is the exact same no matter what server is used. So I doubt it will be able to find any CDs that it couldn't find before.
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posted on 8-24-2003 at 09:06 PM
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Ah? Really? 
My problem is some CDs are not found by eJ CD Ripper -maybe only the french CDs, but I am not sure at all. I have just tried that once again with a
recent french CD, and I have the message: "CD not found on the freedb.org database"- while they are found by Easy CDDA
Extractor! And you are right, even if I switch it to us.freedb.org!
Until now I thought that was because eJ currently use us.freedb.org. But so, since that is not the case, where is the difference of the eJukebox CD
Ripper in comparison to Easy CDDA Extractor???
Strange mystery, no? If you could clarify that... and fixe it!
Thank you very much.
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posted on 8-25-2003 at 05:03 PM
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I have performed some tests to compare eJ CD Ripper lookups at us.freedb.org and Easy cdda Extractor at freedb.freedb.org.
The verdict:
Almost all my french CDs are also found on the us.freedb.org server. The difference is at the US server I always get English casefixing for my french
albums. Too bad! While using the freedb.freedb.org server I always get the CORRECT casefixing according to whether
the CD is in English or in French!
So the freedb servers are not totally equivalent. For me it's interesting to use the freedb.freedb.org server. It seems it is more respectful of
local languages.
It would be judicious if eJ could exploit the "intelligence" of freedb.freedb.org server...
That would be so easy to respect that with the eJ CD Ripper, since it is only necessary eJ DO NOTHING after the cddb lookups if it use the
freedb.freedb.org server...
What you think?
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posted on 8-25-2003 at 10:23 PM
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Allright...looks like their is no real way to detect non english words...so we have disabled casefixing for songs made by the Ripper in v3.3. The
ripper will also use freedb.freedb.org in v3.3.
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posted on 8-26-2003 at 12:23 PM
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Phew! Super!
Thank you very much for your continuous support and also for your comprehension concerning foreign languages...
You know, I think it is always possible to run with the hare and hunt with the hounds!
You are the best and eJukebox is great!
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posted on 9-6-2003 at 07:13 PM
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Still some problems with the Ripper CDDB lookup in v3.3
I don't know why, but most of recent CDs are not found by the ripper CDDB lookup.
I notice, like you says, that has nothing to do with any CDDB server, even if freedb.freedb.org is better for foreign languages.
Thanks for that! And also for having disabled casefixing for ripped CDs. 
I fear that the copy protection of recent CDs can cause lookup to fail, but I am not sure of this.
On the other hand I have noticed that each time a CD have an EXTRA TRACK which is not a song (images or video bonus...) then the ripper lookup
fail, although it seems able to extract the tracks.
So I think that could be the key to the mystery!
But as nowadays almost all CDs have these bonus, many are not recognized during the ripper lookup... while they are well recognized using Easy CDDA
Extractor.
If you could look into this...
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posted on 9-10-2003 at 06:25 PM
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I have noticed that each time a CD have an EXTRA TRACK which is not a song (images or video bonus...) then the CDDB lookup FAIL.
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Audiosoft,
Do you plan to look into this issue?
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posted on 9-11-2003 at 12:34 PM
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Hey! I am alone to have the CDDB lookup which fail for all the CDs with additional images or videos???
Or else, I am alone to try to use commonly the great eJukebox CD ripper... I hope no!
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posted on 9-11-2003 at 03:23 PM
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I don't think you are the only one using the eJukebox ripper, but most people who are "anal" about their CD extractions (like myself)
use EAC and will continue to do so. There is no other ripper that even comes remotely closes to EAC in quality and functionality.
On the other hand: Don't forget that this nice new copy protection "feature" the record companies are giving us is much more common in
Europe than in the US, so maybe that is the reason why not too many people in the forum are having those type of problems. Over here, almost every new
release has this ridiculous "copy protection" (which of course, doesn't protect against copying at all), in the US it seems that the
majority of releases are still "normal"
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posted on 9-11-2003 at 07:49 PM
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OK, I don't cast doubt that EAC be a must!
I only still hope the eJukebox Ripper really fulfil its function, no more no less. I.e. a tool allowing to eJukebox to become THE independent audio
solution.
Actually, I don't think anymore that the issue concern the protection of CDs. The eJukebox Ripper IS able to extract these CDs without any
problem, even the most recent ones!
The thing concern the CDDB lookups for CDs containing something else than the audio tracks and the copy protection:
I have noticed that each time the lookup procedure fail -message "CD not found on freedb.org"- then the CDs concerned contain some video or
band pictures. A lot of actual CDs: Europeans, but Americans as well...
I just want to report this bug to Audiosoft.
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posted on 9-27-2003 at 09:36 AM
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Audiosoft,
Any chance you look into the failing CDDB lookup for non-standard audio CDs?
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