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posted on 7-31-2005 at 09:27 PM
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A few questions for the more experienced users
Now I've got a few albums in the database it is really slow when I rebuild, or do anything for that matter. How do you guy's with over 30000 songs
find it? I rebuilt the database a couple of days ago and it took hours with 20000 songs in it. Editing albums in EJ is unpractical, esspecially adding
cover art.
Then around 20 album covers have dissappeared and I have to add them again.
Why is it that sometimes the cover is not shown in the now playing panel even though it is in the tag and is shown when you click to edit the tag in
EJ?
I have an artist with three albums, in the album view his name appears with the three albums below it as it should, but above the artist name I also
have the same artist name with no albums below it. How do I get rid of the extra name?
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posted on 7-31-2005 at 09:52 PM
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I have 30299 songs in my database now. It sure could be faster, but it is bearable. The only real problem I got with it, is that it takes ages to
cache up the albumlist which results in ejukebox freezing up for a minute or more after the albumlist is loaded. Searching speed and speed of
rebuilding, around 30 minutes for the latter, is fair enough. Concidering the huge amount of data ejukebox must handle.
Hours? Hmm What are the specs of your computer? To me it sounds like you have some corruption on your database file. Try to search the forums for
"ejuke.asn" and download the "dummy file" located in a thread in here somewhere. Probably started by Junk og Pirk. Put this file in your ejukebox
directory (overwrite the old one) and rebuild your database. What is the size of the your ejuke.asn file?
Those albums with missing images, are those in pure mp3 format?
Try to enter the albums, rightclick and choose "edit". Then beside the image is there a button named 'setimage4all'? If so push it 
The Phantom artists you see sounds like a result of a corrupted database as mentioned above.
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posted on 8-4-2005 at 09:44 PM
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Hi Fishy,
PC Spec, is Athlon 1.2 GHz , 352MB RAM, XP Pro SP2. (not bad for nothing)
I have searched everywhere and cannot find any trace of ejuke.asn. I have one simply called db that shows up as a winamp file, could this be it? if so
it is 1.08MB.
All my songs are in MP3 and I have set image for all of them and it shows up when I go in to edit. It just doesn't show them when the song is playing
only the CD graphic..
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posted on 8-4-2005 at 10:15 PM
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Shalom! Hmm, ejukebox sure would benefit from a better cpu and more ram. I am still of the option that several hours are too much time to rebuild that
database.
The definately mean the ejuke.asn file located in your ejukebox directory. Trust me, you have one  . It's probably marked as 'hidden' so you have to make explorer show hidden files.
When you've find it, download the dummy asn file and replace it with the orginal. Don't care about the db file. Rebuild and see if things behave
better.
Btw, how much space do you have available on your C:\ drive?
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posted on 8-4-2005 at 10:43 PM
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Yes it was hidden, thought I had checked that box. Anyway it is 582MB.
I have partitioned a 200GB drive and given C: 10GB (3.63GB Free).
Will try overwriting the file as suggested.
Too poor at the moment to upgrade Jukebox PC, It is a stand alone and was free so I will make do for now. Expecting second baby anyday now so
resources elswhere. Oh and my VW Bug needs attention too.
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posted on 8-5-2005 at 08:08 AM
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Left the database to update overnight, don't know how long it took, but to rebuild album list it took 50 minutes (1006 Albums) this morning, I now
have lots of missing covers again (the same ones as always dissappear when I rebuild )and the duplicate artist is still there. The file size has
halved but with no increase in performance.
I remaned the old ejuke.ans to ejuke.old rather than overwritting, would this make a difference? Too scared I lost all of my hard work, I thought that
compilations may not be recognised again etc.
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posted on 8-5-2005 at 08:37 AM
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Hi VWBUG,
Unfortunately I think you trip on the major flaw of eJukebox... Certainly that many people desert at this stage. 
Nevertheless eJukebox is fantastic once you have tamed the beast! 
Good luck with your database.
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posted on 8-5-2005 at 10:08 AM
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If you have an Athlon 1.2 GHz then that is not so bad at all. I am running on a Celeron 566 (which is still the highest-spec CPU that allows for very
easy PASSIVE cooling without going to notebook / mobile components) so I can run my system completely fanless and therefore absolutely silent.
My collection is about the size of yours, I have 870 CDs in there with about 11000 songs.
While the performance is really not great and is the biggest source of frustration, it is nowhere near as bad as yours, so I think that you do have
some other problem.
Rebuilding the entire database takes 1 1/2 hours on my system, but that is over a 802.11b network. If I connect my MP3 disk via USB 1.1 directly, it
takes around 45 minutes. I have no USB 2.0 nor 802.11a/g.
Once eJukebox is up and running and I click on ALBUMS (or if I hit "refresh album list"), it takes about 6 minutes to display all albums (first it
hangs for 30 seconds, then 4-5 minutes building the list, then 1 minute until I get control back). If I close the album list and re-open it (without
refreshing), it takes about 1 minute or so.
Yes, it is all very slow but at least once the album list is fully loaded (and unless somebody closes it by accident), the system becomes manageable
and is within acceptable limits.
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posted on 8-5-2005 at 03:43 PM
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Pirk: Is this a known bug?! I have not experienced this yet. All I do is set the tags and covers in tag & rename, and import them to ejukebox.
After that they work as they should.
Demnos: 566 mhz? That's brave, but I understand that you want to avoid fan noises. I ran ejukebox on a system equalient to the one Vwbug uses now and
found it way to slow after a while. Hehe, you guys got my blessing 
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posted on 8-5-2005 at 04:31 PM
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Hi Fishy,
As you probably know, for the non-mp3 files, all the tags and covers you edit using the eJukebox editor will be lost if you crash your
database!
I think that -like me- maybe VWBUG is in this case (?), and maybe this is the reason he have some stranges or missing albums and artist names in his
albumlist. He can still fix them with the eJ editor, but it's only saved in the database: Not secure at all!
So, as much as your music collection is all in mp3, no problem... But otherwise it's the mess, guaranted!
VWBUG, your "problematic" albums are in mp3 or not?
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posted on 8-5-2005 at 05:11 PM
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"All my songs are in MP3 and I have set image for all of them and it shows up when I go in to edit. It just doesn't show them when the song is
playing only the CD graphic.."
Hmm.. wonder why this happens for him. I sucpected a broken database
(ejuke.asn), but that does not seem to be the case after all?
VWbug: You downloaded the dummy ejuke.asn from the forums and replaced it with the original right? Then did a rebuild. There is no problem having a
backup of it in the same directory by the way. Hmm, strange that it didn't work.
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posted on 8-5-2005 at 06:39 PM
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Ah ah... OK Fishy! I'm sorry, I was completly wrong.
So that must be a different problem! Even if nevertheless what I said is a real problem too...
Well, I change my approach. I suspect that VWBUG has a problem with the images he puts in his mp3 files:
- Maybe some of his images are too large? Or not in jpeg format, partially corrupted or not standard?
- Maybe this is the tag area which is corrupted in some mp3s? But it's not easy to detect!
I would try to change the images themselves in the tags, trying another origin...
And in a last resort, I would rip again the problematic albums, if possible!
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posted on 8-5-2005 at 07:39 PM
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It may be the format of the pictures, an example of one of them is Contraband, Velvet Revolver, Jpg, 300 x 267, 14.6kb.
I havn't renamed any of my covers to cover.jpg
I added all of these images using EJukebox editor and setimage4all. Could try another source I suppose but I don't see it making any difference.
I was using a trial of Tagm3u which tagged the covers perfectly for EJ but it has expired and I chose MP3TAG instead as it seached for the album
details. Don't want to fork out for another tagging program.
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posted on 8-5-2005 at 08:18 PM
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hmm I am using all kind of weird dimensions on my images as well without problems. I know some tag editors doesn't work very well with ej (for
reasons I don't want to know).
I would try to run one or two of those albums through a program named tag & rename, which I know is 100% compatible with ejukebox (just press f10
from within tag & rename and it pulls everything off the net). If you then can rebuild and the images are still there we have a sollution.Rebuild
by just using the two albums you ran through tag & rename so you don't have to wait for hours
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posted on 8-5-2005 at 08:18 PM
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Another thing, concerning the albums having 2, 3 or more CDs with one cover image. Ejukebox detects some specific words like "CD x" or "Disc x"
in addition to the album names in tags. E.g:
Sheep songs CD1
Sheep songs CD2
Sheep songs CD3
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posted on 8-5-2005 at 08:20 PM
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Baaaaeee Not to forget the classic albums "The very best of Sheep"
and "The sounds from the lamb"
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posted on 8-5-2005 at 08:26 PM
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and for you Fishy: "My favorites fishing songs" or "The frozen songs"
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posted on 8-5-2005 at 08:37 PM
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I agree with Fishy, Tag&Rename is a good program you can use with eJukebox. And not inevitably very expensive, in fact... if you see my idea!
I hope you'll solve your problem easily, VWBUG
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posted on 8-5-2005 at 09:04 PM
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I have solved the artist who's name was appearing twice. On the greatest hits album the artist name was input followed by : then greatest hits for
one of the discs.
Album title was shown as
artist name: greatest hits (CD1)
Lokking at tag and rename just now, prefer MP3Tag so far (If only It Worked properly with EJ)
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posted on 8-5-2005 at 09:07 PM
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I havn't renamed any of my covers to cover.jpg
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That could be a possible solution for your problem... If you have 1 album = 1 folder, you just need to put a cover.jpg file in each folder.
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posted on 8-5-2005 at 09:15 PM
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| Quote: | Message original : VWBUG
I have solved the artist who's name was appearing twice. On the greatest hits album the artist name was input followed by : then greatest hits for
one of the discs.
Album title was shown as
artist name: greatest hits (CD1) |
Good!
I think you would really need to check very carefully all the tags of the "suspect" albums which appear wrong in eJ changing some names
eventually... And after you completed that, you can build a new database.
eJukebox is a bit capricious!
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posted on 8-5-2005 at 09:39 PM
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I try and check each one as I add them, but I was adding 40 albums at a time and this one must have slipped through the net. (sorry Fishy, no Pun
intended)
I will rename the covers in the problematic albums to cover.jpg and see if that resolves the problem.
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