Hey everyone,

I’m a long time ejukebox user and have had nothing but great success until now. My library has become MASSIVE! I believe I have around 42,000 songs in my library and things are pretty dang organized. I am a big fan of letting Ejukbox randomly pick songs and play them from my large library of music. Now that my library has grown to such a large size, ejukebox refuses to randomly play song, it will just pick 1 or 2 artists and play there stuff over and over and over until infinite. I Love Ejuke and have not seen a program that can come close to being its rival. So if anyone can offer me any assistance with this I would greatly appreciate it.

Hmm..That is allot of songs. I will look into this.

Have you tried using the AutoList Builder so Custom AutoPlay mode has less songs to choose from? See if it works better with 32,000 or less matching tracks in the AutoList profile.

Also, there is a effective option in the autolist builder: Play the Never Played songs!

The AutoList Builder's Last Played section and 'Never Played' option is currently Ignored by AutoPlay since it would eventually run out of songs and stop playing. This is because after a song is played it's Last Played Timestamp is changed.

If you use the AutoList Builder to create a profile that restricts it to much less than all your tracks it should help. or you can actually use the Last Played section criteria by Saving it as a Playlist and loading it in Bookmark AutoPlay Mode....it would then be picking a random song from the saved list of never played tracks so would not run out.

Hmm This happens to me too when I let ejukebox pick from the whole library of 35400 songs. It also happens when I use the "never played" which restricts it to 20411 songs. It does not happen when I restrict it even more with auto list or custom mode (around 1000 songs).

It plays the artist "Air" ( for Pirk's convenience) all the time if that is of interest. They are not the first artist in my database.

hmm it actually switches between Air and Agurk Players. Weird.

Yes it's weird, I don't listen to electronic music so much!

Any news on this one?

eJukebox currently restricts AutoPlay to a random song from the 1/2 of matching songs that were played the longest time ago. After a song plays another song comes out of the most recent 1/2 and is made available to the random pick. This makes eJukebox pick songs that haven't been played in the longest time and improves performance. Patterns such as songs by the same artist do seem to happen. This is just a coincidence as it really is random.

hmm I am referring to the fact that it plays songs from about two albums when it tries to play songs from the whole collection.

Well I have update the random function to make it first try an initial random pick (testing if it has already been autoplayed in the session) instead of always requiring a random array without dupes to be built for multiple attempts. So if it finds a random song (on the first try) that has not been played already in the session and not by the current artist it will use less cpu and make the 'up next' display faster. Hard to explain exactly but it will be better: make it more random and hopefully fix it for large collections. v3.999 should be out around the end of the week with the improvements.

OK Audiosoft. Thanks for your explanations about the random function, and for the update!

Here are my last cogitations:
So basically, the autoplay mode picks songs from the 1/2 oldest autoplayed songs.

But how the NEVER autoplayed songs are picked, since they don't have a "last autoplay date"? Alphabetically?

In this case - which can be quite frequent if you often rebuild the database - the autoplay randomly picks songs from a alphabetical list. This is a random pick, but I think not enough random: Because it's always based on the SAME SORTED list.
So I think on each new session, maybe eJukebox could start by mix all the never played songs. And then randomly picks songs from this "mixed session list" in addition to the others 1/2 old played songs.

Thanks.

Pirk,

Never played songs have always been included in the 1/2 used. They come up first in the possible songs, from which a random song is picked, since they have the oldest date...no date at all. That said their selection will now be more random in v3.999 final.

Ok, the never played songs will come first.. But supposing I've just rebuilded my database: no last played date at all! The 1/2 part is based on what in this case? How do you split the collection? On which criterion?

Pirk,

Currently after a rebuild eJukebox ends up starting off with the 1/2 of songs added to the database first. But the other 1/2 become available as more and more songs get played.

Pirk,

Take a look at the last paragraph in my previous post because I was updating it when you responded. Let me know what you think about the best solution for improving the selection after rebuilding. Making the number of songs used be equal to the number of songs with no last played date when that is larger than 1/2 would probally be best. But I want to get your input before I start working on that incase you think otherwise since the 2/3 option would be easier to implement.

Audiosoft: Great to hear! The problem right now is not that it is not random 'enough' when it picks songs from a huge array (30000< songs), but that it consequently plays songs from about two albums when having about 3000 albums to choose from. I am confident that this will be fixed for the next release You definately should increase your album collection for testing

Fishy,

Currently, with my "only" 37000 songs, I don't experience the "two albums" bug you describe . Maybe that's only wrong over 40000 songs?
But your bug reminds me the one I experienced because of the 16 bits limitation (32768) of the old random generator. Normally this bug is fixed.. unless there is a new limitation that appears around 40000 songs, or only on some configurations: Windows 2000 ?!

35405 songs. Windows XP and latest ejukebox beta.

OK I did find a little bug that was sometimes still restricting it to 32768 max songs. I have fixed that and also changed it so it always makes all matching songs with no last played date available which will open it up to allot more songs...especially after rebuilding the database.

Give v3.999 Beta 5 a try (under Latest Updates) and let me know how it goes.

I just did a major overhaul of my library. Everything is Tagged and filed away in a sickeningly clean fashion. Alas after all that and a clean rebuild the same issue of playing the same 1 or 2 artists still came up. Nothing but Big Wreck with an occasional Beyonce Intermission. After readiing the above posts and downloading the newest Beta release it seems that this problem has dissapeared and things are playing at random just nicely. Thanks for all the help guys! Ive never seen a forum or even a developer for that matter that was able to fix a problem so dang quickly. Long live Ejukebox!!!